No Escape: Them or Us: No Law 1Thes 5:3 or 1Thes 5:9 |
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Grace unto you, and
peace,
from God our (merciful) Father and the Lord Jesus Christ No Escape or No Law1Thes 5:3 or 1Thes 5:9Law (Sacrifice) or Grace (Mercy) Destruction or Salvation No Escape: them or us :Escape Them All and Us All are Two Alls; which is an oxymoron. Pick one all ("we all are one") of twain: them all or us all. The choice, if it were optional, is a dead end or living end. What's immutable isn't optional, and neither is John 8:32. Mean while, the Lord is l-o-n-g-suffering unto "us-ward". Them or Us: Destruction or Salvation:
Law or Grace
Them all (1Thes 5:3):
when they shall say, Peace and safety [Grace and law];
then sudden destruction cometh upon them... they shall not escape. Us all (1Thes 5:9): God hath not appointed us to wrath ("law worketh wrath": Romans 4:15; So the biblical allegory of 1Thes 5:9 is that God hath not appointed us to law). Romans
11:32 (Them or Us: Law or Grace)
"God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon [us] all". "Them All"
(allegorically "them" who
"oppose themselves")
Gen 5:2 "Male and
female created he them; and
blessed them, and called their name Adam,
in the day when they were created."
("them" created but not made perfect are
called "Adam")(allegorically the first Adam of two Adams: "created" imperfect) (a vessel of "dishonour"; "vessels of wrath fitted to destruction") Lk 17:27-30 "They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed [them] all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed." ("shall it" = question; vengeful Son of man isn't merciful Son of God) Jn 5:39 "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life" (perhaps not, if "as in Adam [in them: Gen 5:2] all die": 1Cor 15, for "all die" is extinction rather than salvation). 1Thes 5:3 "For when they shall say, Peace and safety [Grace and law]; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape." (allegoric moral: no escape for them who believe there's safety in law worketh wrath) 2Tim 2:25 "In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;" (them on both left and right sides, both goats and sheep in Mt 25, oppose themselves with their law law, in their plural heavens) Jude 1:5 "I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not." (allegoric moral: their grace + law is as salvation + destruction = a dead end) OR
Us All (in the third day he will raise "us"
up, we shall live in his sight)
(allegorically last Adam of two Adams: that is "made" perfect, or Christ like) (vessel of "honour" to make known riches of his glory: "vessels of mercy") Gen
1:26 "God said: let us
make man" ...God is one of us, with us, for us, from the get go of the
shew. And "if God be for us, who can be against us"?
Rom 4:16 "...to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all," (along with talk of faith Rom 14:23 and Gal 3:11 should be read, which note "whatsoever is not of faith is sin", and "the law is not of faith"; so we can relate law to sin and sin to death) Rom 8:30-32 "Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. What shall we then say to these things? If God [be] for us, who [can be] against us? He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? (here we see predestinated reason to convert from them created[imperfect] -> us made[perfect], and such is done via [grace + law] - law = grace us; in which things are an "allegory") 1Cor 15:56-57 "The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law. But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." (Victory over law, the source: Rom 5:13 and strength: 1Cor 15:56 of sin, death sting thereof, is God given to "us") Gal 4:24-26 "Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all." 1Thes 5:9-10 "God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him." Heb 9:24 "For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, [which are] the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:" 2Pet 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward" Conclusion About Them or Us
Conclusion (about them or
us): if
I were one of them, I'd be converting to one of us, and asap, by taking
the grace walk from Sinai to Sion, not
even look back at such Horeb-bull law, the "great terror" to all Israel
(all them) via terror-ist law giver Moses (Deut 34:12; Jn 1:17).From the same lump the Potter has created two sorts of vessels, one to dishonour and one to honour, mirrorly the reverse for the sake of a this/that shew (to "shew the only Potentate", of twain: "the only wise God" (of foolish/wise Gods), "the only true God" (of false/true Gods), is "the God of all grace"). And in such an allegoric shew, notably written as a mystery aforetime for our learning (Rom 15:4), we find them/us, ye/you, the former being "created" imperfect, the latter being "made" perfect. Since there are two alls, two one man scenarios, the objective is to convert from law to grace, as from the dead end of no escape for them to the living end of escape for us, via abolition of law which was "added" to "my grace is sufficient" (no law req'd). In a them or us God shew both sides are played out in heavens and earth created for such purpose; As if the two options given for let us make man: (i) in our image (ii) after our likeness; Allegorically the two one man scenarios of Romans 5, and the two Adams of 1Cor 15; Which things are an allegory being law and grace, them and us: Beginning them-ward and Ending us-ward; ye and you, ye (do err) is made a perfected you by knowing the truth (about law), as noted in places like Jn 8:32 and 1Pet 5:10 which notes conversion is via the God of all grace. Hence we find the biblical term you-ward denoting not only conversion from ye->you, but also denoting the fwd direction of <-bwd|fwd-> go on unto perfection (endure to the end). For it's neither pleasing to God nor Paul to draw back, turn back to law, as John did in Rev. However in every good mystery there are twists, many twain things to sort out, rightly divide; And then clarify even further as does Pauline clarity, which first compares and clarifies twain things as good/better, such as two sorts of men in Romans 5, two sorts of servants in Rom 6, two sorts of laws in Rom 8, and two sorts of children in Rom 9. Then in other Pauline Epistles we find even further clarity about three things: good better best, and what's best for all is neither what's good/better: like be not a servant (neither in Rom 6) but a son: Gal 4; and in Eph 4: be no more children (neither in Rom 9); And what's best for all of good better best is no law (neither law law in Rom 8). For such a sides war, blame game, accusing and excusing, is them vs them (oppose themselves), with the us part of them/us being above such (plural) heavens, in heaven (higher than the heavens) where Christ of "Jesus Christ" (not Christ Jesus) entered, appeared in the presence of God for "us", and thereafter is long-suffering to us-ward. For if Babylon is twice fallen ("Babylon is fallen, is fallen") as are a third of the stars of heaven in Revelation 12: first drawn away from heaven (higher than the heavens) to heavens (higher than the earth), then cast down to earth... it then reasons reconciliation and a return to heaven also requires two up risings: first to the right side of heavens where them oppose themselves as goats(left) vs sheep(right) in a sides war, yet with purpose: to rightly divide law vs grace things; then also leave such twain "principles" to go on unto perfection, or go higher to heaven where there are no sides to even take, and thereby no war even plausible... ahhhh peace at last. Of two sorts of "them" to sort out first, we are not the sort of them who draw back (turn back, look back) in our grace walk, but the sort who believe to the saving of the soul (Heb 10:39). Albeit such is better of good/better, but the exhortation is to also leave such "principles" and go on unto perfection (no mention of law), which speaks of be no more them, but us of them/us. For when they shall say Peace and safety (Grace and law; safety in law), then sudden destruction cometh upon them, the "no escape" sort mentioned in 1Thes 5:3. However there is an escape for us, but not via rapture theories, rather via give earnest heed to what's been said. What's been said? The will of God is "I will have mercy(grace), and not sacrifice(law)". God was never pleased with offerings and sacrifices which were "of the law". How(?) shall we escape? Perhaps "the end"
is already
written:
The grace
of our Lord Jesus Christ with
you all. Amen.
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